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(Onze heures cinquante-cinq minutes)
La Modératrice : Bonjour et
bienvenue à ce point de presse de l'opposition officielle avec, entre autres,
la députée de Westmount—Saint-Louis, Mme Jennifer Maccarone, et sa collègue
porte-parole pour les personnes vivant avec un handicap ou avec le spectre de l'autisme,
Mme Elisabeth Prass, ainsi que la porte-parole de l'opposition officielle en
matière d'éducation, Mme Madwa-Nika Cadet. Pour l'occasion, les députées
libérales sont accompagnées de parents, de parents mobilisés pour l'Académie Centennial,
dont la porte-parole de la Coalition Sauvons Centennial : un avenir pour
nos enfants, Mme Karine Sigouin, ainsi qu'un élève de secondaire IV aussi
mobilisé, évidemment, Adeel Sudoollah. Donc, la parole est à vous.
Mme Maccarone : Bonjour.
Merci, tout le monde, de votre présence aujourd'hui. Comme vous pouvez voir,
nous sommes venus en grand nombre pour parler de la situation d'urgence de l'Académie
Centennial qui risque fermeture, d'ici la fin de l'année scolaire, s'ils ne
reçoivent pas une aide financière urgente ainsi que la reconnaissance de l'extension
de l'agrément pour le côté francophone de l'Académie Centennial, pour assurer
la pérennité et la vitalité à long terme pour cette école qui est un bijou. C'est
une école qui protège les droits des enfants avec des besoins particuliers, qui
est un dernier recours pour plusieurs des parents, pour plusieurs élèves qui n'ont
pas réussi dans l'école publique, qui sont venus à Centennial, pas par gaieté
de cœur, pas parce que c'est des personnes fortunées, mais parce qu'ils
souhaitent sauver la vie de leurs enfants, pour assurer une vie long terme pour
ces enfants où ils peuvent contribuer à notre société parce que c'est un
investissement dans les vies de nos jeunes. Alors, on espère que le ministre et
le gouvernement de la CAQ seront à l'écoute, et on a hâte d'entendre les
témoignages de nos parents qui se sont mobilisés et les élèves aussi qui se
sont mobilisés pour parler de leur vie, de leur expérience puis pourquoi il
faut absolument protéger l'Académie Centennial.
Mme Cadet : Merci, Jennifer.
À titre de porte-parole libérale en matière d'éducation, pour moi, Centennial,
c'est un modèle. On a eu la chance d'échanger avec les parents, on l'a dit, on
a plus de 35 familles qui sont mobilisées sur les 300... sur les 300 familles
qui fréquentent l'Académie Centennial. Et ce qu'on voit, là, c'est que
Centennial, c'est un rempart pour ces jeunes, c'est un refuge. On a entendu des
jeunes nous dire à quel point leur vie avait changé grâce à l'Académie
Centennial. Donc, aujourd'hui, nous, alors qu'on se pose des questions sur
notre système d'éducation, c'est très clair que, pour nous, au Parti libéral du
Québec, nous souhaitons sauver Centennial, pas parce que c'est un luxe, pas
parce que c'est un privilège, mais parce que pour ces enfants avec des besoins
particuliers, on parle d'enfants qui vivent, parfois, avec un TDAH, un TSA, de
la dyslexie, des troubles d'apprentissage, bien Centennial leur offre les
services dont ils ont besoin.
Donc, nous, ce qu'on demande au ministre
de l'Éducation, c'est d'assurer, d'offrir une aide financière de dernier
recours à l'école à court terme, mais qu'à long terme qu'il s'assure d'offrir
tout ce dont l'école a besoin, pour qu'elle soit pérenne et offre des services
dont l'extension de l'agrément pour les services en français.
Mme Prass : Merci. Bien, la
plus que la plupart de ces jeunes qui sont rendus à l'école Centennial sont là,
parce que, quand ils étaient dans le réseau public, les ressources n'étaient...
n'étaient pas là pour les encadrer, pour les soutenir. Et l'impact de la
fermeture de Centennial, ça va être quoi, parce que c'est une école unique qui
répond aux besoins et aux réalités de ces jeunes-là? L'impact, ça va être de
retourner dans le réseau scolaire, le réseau scolaire public et avoir des bris
de service, parce que les écoles publiques, carrément, n'ont pas les ressources
et les moyens pour soutenir ces jeunes-là. Donc, ça va être ça, l'impact, le
gouvernement va être responsable pour que 300 jeunes et leurs familles se
retrouvent en situation de bris de service, ce qui peut amener à un décrochage
scolaire, ce qui peut amener un parent devoir s'absenter ou quitter son emploi,
pour être celui qui reprend l'éducation de son enfant qui a des besoins
particuliers.
Ce qu'on demande, c'est une extension dans
une école existante où, du côté anglais, français, les profs travaillent des
deux côtés. Donc, ce n'est pas une nouvelle école qui va recevoir cet agrément,
mais c'est un agrément pour une école de section francophone. Donc, nous, ce
qu'on demande au gouvernement, c'est que les francophones, les jeunes qui ont
des besoins particuliers au Québec, qu'ils aient les mêmes chances que les
anglophones qui fréquentent l'école... qui fréquentent le côté anglophone de
cette école-là. Donc, on s'attend à ce que le gouvernement reconnaisse la
responsabilité qu'ils ont envers tous ces jeunes et leurs familles.
Mme Sigouin (Karine) : Bonjour.
On comprend le court terme, mais on a vraiment besoin de long terme. Je
m'excuse, je suis émotive. On n'a pas de plan B. Tous nos enfants ont réussi,
réussissent à cette école-là. On leur donne un avenir avec cette école-là. Ils
vont faire des métiers, ils ne feront pas de décrocheurs. Donc, ça nous permet,
Centennial, de redevenir des parents et ça permet à nos enfants d'aimer l'école,
de poursuivre, d'avoir des réussites scolaires qu'ils n'ont jamais eues au
public. Donc, on a vraiment besoin d'aide, on a besoin d'un financement public
immédiat, récurrent. Puis comme je vous le dis, puis je le répète, on n'en a
pas, de plan B, on n'en a pas. On a besoin de Centennial. On a besoin que
Centennial existe demain, après-demain, pour le futur.
M. Sudoollah (Adeel) : Bonjour.
Je suis Adeel Sudoollah, un élève de secondaire IV. Je suis à Centennial
depuis quatre ans. J'ai du TDAH. Un peu stressé maintenant, premier point de
presse. Mais cette école a changé ma vie, ça a vraiment changé ma vie. Le
système public, tristement, il n'est pas assez pour nous, et on veut que le
gouvernement supporte nos familles. Le 26 avril, il y a une porte ouverte.
Moi, j'invite tout le monde du gouvernement de visiter l'école et de voir les
personnes, les faces, au lieu de juste rester... avoir des statistiques sur...
J'aimerais que le gouvernement voie les étudiants... le ministre de l'Éducation
ou n'importe qui d'autre dans le gouvernement.
Mme Sigouin (Karine) : ...
Mme Maccarone : Oui, allez-y,
allez-y.
Mme Sigouin (Karine) : Je
vais rajouter, on a une belle page, la coalition, avec toutes les... toutes les
histoires de nos enfants. Vous allez voir, on n'a pas la même histoire, mais
notre histoire revient toute à la même chose que Centennial a sauvé nos
enfants. Allez voir ça sur Facebook, la coalition sauvons nos enfants, je
crois, c'est ça. Allez voir ça, vous allez voir tous les plus beaux témoignages
qui prouvent que Centennial existe pour quelque chose, puis c'est
extraordinaire.
La Modératrice : On va passer
à la période de questions. Je vous demanderais de vous nommer ainsi que le
média que vous représentez.
Journaliste :
Hi! Dan Spector, with Global News.
Do you speak much English, Mam?
Mme Sajid (Fatiha) : I can speak in
English. Go head.
Journaliste
: What's your name?
Mme Sajid (Fatiha) : My name is
Fatiha.
Journaliste :
Your last name?
Mme Sajid
(Fatiha) : Sajid.
Journaliste :
And you are?
Mme Sajid (Fatiha) : A parent at
Centennial.
Journaliste :
Fatiha, there's a lot of emotion here.
Mme
Sajid (Fatiha) : Yes.
Journaliste :
I'm seeing tears in people eyes.
Mme
Sajid (Fatiha) : Yes.
Journaliste :
Why is that?
Mme Sajid
(Fatiha) : Because you are talking to distress
parents who've try everything, and they found a solution with Centennial. And
it would be... it would be a pity to have such wonderful school close its doors
and you face the fact that you have to go back to a system that wasn't working.
So, you finally find a solution, but then somebody comes and takes it away
because they don't understand that's one school, that is a school that was able
to see that. They wanted to promote the first language for people with
difficulties that were not being anwered in their needs in the public system.
And because of that, all those who were lucky enough to have English
eligibility and study in English, are now like its entire school is to close.
It doesn't make sense. How could you be in Québec in a country that's promoting
the French language, you have half of the school that speaks... that does the
system in French, the other half in English. Teachers that teach both , the French
side and the English side, and yet there is only a subvention that's given to
the English sector and an extension, literally an extension, we're not talking
about a new school, is not being given to the English side... to the French
side. It doesn't make sense. So, you're talking to parents here that are
desperate, you're talking to parents here who have made huge sacrifices in
their lives who don't necessarily afford but are borrowing money, are getting
funds, are getting grandparents to chip in, are getting people to help to be
able to hope for a future for their kids. So, it's... that's...
Journaliste :
What is the situation with your child?
Mme Sajid
(Fatiha) : My child, this is her second year
at the school, and she is born with a rare genetic mutation. So, she doesn't
fall under the spectrum of ADHD or dyspraxia or dyslexia, but she has a rare
genetic mutation, maybe a few hundred in the world, that impairs her cognitive
skills. I've had to travel the world to come to Centennial, and now realizing
it's closing, that's... I don't know, c'est un échec. For me, it's a failure.
So, we have to find a solution and find a way to get the school to stay open.
And think about it, I mean seriously, how much more would it cost the
Government on the long run? Should these kids have to go back to the public
system and have to have the resources? I mean, people need to go, people from
the Government, they need to go inside the school and understand why that's
school is different. We're not talking about a department of specialized
learning that is, you know, teaching differently. We're talking about an
entire school where every single kid who has difficulty feels normal because
they are not being pulled out and they are not being tagged as a different kid.
They are given an opportunity, that is Centennial. It's... There is no other
school, even other schools that come and ask for an agreement or help, they
can't compare themselves to Centennial. I don't mean to gloat that we're the
most unique, it's not about that, but it's a reality. So, for those who have
questions, and before taking a decision, we really invite them, as Adele said,
to go to school and understand the difference. And honestly this is the only
school amongst... the only school worldwide that is so different, Québec should
be proud to have a school like Centennial that's on the map. Canada can, you
know, shine thanks to a system like this that was developed by the team, backed
by science. It's not... It's different, it's completely different.
Journaliste :
Maybe for one of the Liberal MNAs. The
Education Minister said, yesterday and again today, that he... you know, he is
considering, they're considering giving, like, emergency help, but they're not
sure. I mean, the tuition fees are high. So, he said that maybe there's some
internal introspection that needs to be done about money management. But what
do you... what do you say to that, the hesitation to provide this emergency
help?
Mme Maccarone :
I appreciate the openness of the
Minister to have met with the parents and the students who mobilized to come
here today to be heard. The fact that there is potentially hope for a
short-term solution is welcomed, but it's the long-term solution that's
essential. And these parents, these students, including their administration,
have put forth solutions. The real solution to ensure the longevity of this
school on both sides is to extend the contract that allows them to have a
partially subsidized francophone sector so that they can be self-sufficient.
It's the same building, it's the same CA, it's the same principle, the same
teachers that work on both sides. We're not asking for a new approval. We're
asking for an extension of what already exists. It is the only way to ensure
their long-term vitality. Otherwise, a short-term financial aid is a Band-Aid.
And, what we're looking for is surgery so that we can get out the cancer and
survive.
Journaliste :
Yes. What do you think would be lost if
it doesn't happen?
Mme Maccarone :
Well, as my colleague Elisabeth Prass
said, it's 300 families that are going to find themselves without the essential
support that they need. And unfortunately, they'll find themselves rushing to
another school, a public system that is not equipped to deal with them. It
means that they're going to be often sent home. These are kids that have
significant needs. Our public system is not prepared to deal with them and
offer them the support they need. They are all testament to that. They've all
passed by the public system, and have chosen Centennial, and have made huge
sacrifices to be there, because the public system, in its current state, is not
in a place where it can reach these students and help them succeed. Students
that were told: You're going to be on a modified program, and were guaranteed
not to receive a diploma are now on a path for success. They will receive a
diploma. And that's long-term success. It's what we want, it's an investment in
the future of Québec. So, if we do not save Centennial, we are abandoning these
families, we are abandoning these students and we are abandoning many people
that can contribute to the vitality of our province.
Journaliste :
Hello.
Mme Maccarone :
Hello.
Journaliste :
Is there a school representative from
the administration who can speak English maybe?
Mme Maccarone :
There is not.
Journaliste :
OK.
Mme Maccarone :
But I would suggest that these parents
are well-equipped to fight for their rights.
Journaliste :
...I'll ask the question and then
whoever can answer can step up. So, the Ministry of Education... the Ministry
of Education is asking the school to present a sort of viability plan. He says
that the school is dealing with several funding issues, is dealing with debt,
and that the ministry just needs to see a plan of action in the medium and the
long-term. Is the school open to providing this plan?
Mme Sajid
(Fatiha) : I think the school is more than
open to providing... And I'm sure that they are currently working with the
best... you know, they have a CPA team that's very well-known. The Board of
directors also are very open. They've been open with every single parent at the
school and have expressed the difficulties and the contingency plans and what
they're, you know, counting on doing. I think it's really important to
understand... You know, you should not be putting the light on perhaps poor
management of the school because there's a lot of things that happened that
have kind of put the school in the situation, and for it, part of it, the
Government is to blame on certain aspects, and that is what, you know,
should... We should be shedding light on those things. You know, the school has
had to move three, four times over the past several years. Why? Because they've
had to leave the buildings that they were in. They couldn't find the right
proper space to have a school. I mean, had I been a member of the Government,
I'd be like: Oh! This is a school that allows so much and gives so much to kids
that other schools aren't able to do. We should help the school to have a space
that... where they can function. You know, unfortunately, it only has the label
of a private school and the ticket price that we're paying, but a lot of the
other elements of it do not follow. They try their best, but they focus most of
their energy and their... I think, their... the money towards the education of
the kids. You know, it's not... It's science-based. There's a lot of reasoning
on every single detail as to the way the school functions, even the way the
school hallways are done, they're all white for a specific reason, to be able
to cater to the needs of every single child that is different. So, think about
that, it's the only school that provides a 100% personalized approach for every
single one of these kids that you see here.
Mme Maccarone :
The school has been in talks with the
Government since September, it's not new. The parents have come here today,
because we've come to the point where it's a last resort and there is no plan
b, but the school administration has been speaking with the Ministry of
Education since September, trying to find a plan and a course of action that
will ensure the longevity of Centennial Academy.
Journaliste :
Thank you. Are there any students who
might want to share what the school means to them in English? Thank you.
Mme Lamarche
(Maya) :So, honestly, the school means a lot
to me and my family, because I have struggled really, last year, mostly it
started last year... Sorry. It started last year, because you change... what is
it called? O.K. Forget it, I'm in sec 4. So, last year, I was in secondary, and
everything started getting harder, and I started paying attention less. I was
struggling a lot with anxiety and that really impacted me. But, this year,
still at the the public school I went to before, I was... like, I was mentally
drained, always tired, was never paying attention in class. The teachers did
not provide the education I needed, and I wasn't getting the support needed as
well. And I changed to Centennial in January and immediately saw so much improvement
in everything. And like, honestly, like, I get along with everybody because
everybody can agree on what they're going through is hard. And you just... you
can relate. And, like, I feel like I can use the things given to me. I have
trouble asking for help in anything. And, so, the fact that everybody else uses
a computer, asks for help. I feel less ashamed and less embarrassed to ask. So,
that really does help me. And I feel like without the school, I'm not going to
be able to get the proper education I need for my future. And that's kind of
stressing me out.
Journaliste :
What's your name?
Mme Lamarche
(Maya) : Maya.
Journaliste :
Can you spell it for me?
Mme Lamarche
(Maya) : M-A-Y-A.
Journaliste : And last name?
Mme Lamarche (Maya) : Last
name? Lamarche.
Journaliste : L-A-M-A-R-C-H-E?
Mme Lamarche (Maya) : Yes.
Journaliste :
How old are you?
Mme Lamarche
(Maya) : I'm 15.
Journaliste :
Thank you, Maya.
Mme Lamarche
(Maya) :Thank you.
La
Modératrice : Merci beaucoup à vous. C'est ce qui met fin à ce point
de presse. Bonne journée.
(Fin à 12 h 14)